Comments on: In Which Blizzard Looked at Sar, and said “My God, She’s Got It!” http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/ Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:42:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Sil http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1853 Sil Sat, 01 May 2010 15:38:24 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1853 I think a lot of people are scared of change. I’ve seen so much crying on the forums about Blizzard changing small things and I’m sure this will be met with lots of QQ-ing too. In my opinion; if it doesn’t work, I’m sure Blizzard will find a quick solution. I doubt they would want to risk people leaving their game. We’ll see what the future brings and how it works out. 10 or 25 man doesn't matter to me, as long as I can raid with my guildies and don't make anyone feel left out, I don't see a problem. .-= Sil´s last blog ..<a href="http://antlergirl.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/oronils-past-part-2/" rel="nofollow">Oronil’s past (part 2)</a> =-. I think a lot of people are scared of change. I’ve seen so much crying on the forums about Blizzard changing small things and I’m sure this will be met with lots of QQ-ing too. In my opinion; if it doesn’t work, I’m sure Blizzard will find a quick solution. I doubt they would want to risk people leaving their game. We’ll see what the future brings and how it works out. 10 or 25 man doesn’t matter to me, as long as I can raid with my guildies and don’t make anyone feel left out, I don’t see a problem.
.-= Sil´s last blog ..Oronil’s past (part 2) =-.

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]]> By: The Daily Quest: The Cataclysm raiding debate | WoW Strategy http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1846 The Daily Quest: The Cataclysm raiding debate | WoW Strategy Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:39:20 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1846 [...] Saresa at Destructive Reach takes credit for them. [...] [...] Saresa at Destructive Reach takes credit for them. [...]

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]]> By: Ionhelm http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1843 Ionhelm Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:46:19 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1843 he he - fun post; and i totally give you credit unless Blizz can prove earlier post! I think we cannot ignore that quiet message that the amount of loot that will drop in 25m versions will make 25m raids a lot more loot efficient than running the raids in 10m versions. Given the choice, almost every guild that can staff a 25m will run a 25m if it is more gearing-efficient. cheers, Iron. .-= Ionhelm´s last blog ..<a href="http://cantankwilltravel.blogspot.com/2010/04/robinwowcom-giving-back-to-blogosphere.html" rel="nofollow">Robin/Wow.com giving back to the blogosphere</a> =-. he he – fun post; and i totally give you credit unless Blizz can prove earlier post!

I think we cannot ignore that quiet message that the amount of loot that will drop in 25m versions will make 25m raids a lot more loot efficient than running the raids in 10m versions. Given the choice, almost every guild that can staff a 25m will run a 25m if it is more gearing-efficient.

cheers,

Iron.
.-= Ionhelm´s last blog ..Robin/Wow.com giving back to the blogosphere =-.

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]]> By: The Daily Quest: The Cataclysm raiding debate @ 9Digital.net http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1841 The Daily Quest: The Cataclysm raiding debate @ 9Digital.net Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:53:14 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1841 [...] Saresa at Destructive Reach takes credit for them. [...] [...] Saresa at Destructive Reach takes credit for them. [...]

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]]> By: Sid http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1840 Sid Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:30:14 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1840 I 100% agree with your article! As a person who prefers 10 man raiding, I'm tired of being looked down to because of my gear or the preconception that "10 mans are just to farm badges or for noobs/casuals". And about that... have you noticed that "casual" is the new "noob"? (At least for supposedly "hardcore/serious" players). I 100% agree with your article!

As a person who prefers 10 man raiding, I’m tired of being looked down to because of my gear or the preconception that “10 mans are just to farm badges or for noobs/casuals”. And about that… have you noticed that “casual” is the new “noob”? (At least for supposedly “hardcore/serious” players).

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]]> By: The Frozen Gnome » Blog Archive » The Daily Quest: The Cataclysm raiding debate http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1836 The Frozen Gnome » Blog Archive » The Daily Quest: The Cataclysm raiding debate Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:20:36 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1836 [...] Saresa at Destructive Reach takes credit for them. [...] [...] Saresa at Destructive Reach takes credit for them. [...]

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]]> By: Elkagorasa http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1834 Elkagorasa Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:44:07 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1834 My biggest complaint is that I don't belong to a dedicated raiding guild. For the weekly raid quest, I often rely on my friends who run the 25-man version before their typical raid, but do the 10-man with me. .-= Elkagorasa´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.elkagorasa.info/2010/04/know-thy-enemy-know-yourself.html" rel="nofollow">Know thy Enemy, Know Yourself</a> =-. My biggest complaint is that I don’t belong to a dedicated raiding guild. For the weekly raid quest, I often rely on my friends who run the 25-man version before their typical raid, but do the 10-man with me.
.-= Elkagorasa´s last blog ..Know thy Enemy, Know Yourself =-.

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]]> By: Beoman http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1833 Beoman Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:42:04 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1833 Well i think the exclusive lockouts is awesome and the many small raid is good but i just cant see how more of the same loot is going to compensate for the extra work that getting together and leading a 25 man is. Blizz is saying that the 10 man and the 25 man is going to be as hard but 25 man is inheritly harder with the ligistic difficultys so are they acctually making it so the 10 man is going to be the harder bosses with more abbilitys or how are they doing this? And yes a big part of me not liking this change is that i afraid of not being able to raid with the ppl i like best in game, other locks. Being the same class brings all kind of different things into the converation who does what(who specs demo, who have the improved HS) and gearing and strat discussion that you just dont get between different classes, what will i actually have to talk to the mages and with other things the emotes? I always thought they only understood sign language:P Well i think the exclusive lockouts is awesome and the many small raid is good but i just cant see how more of the same loot is going to compensate for the extra work that getting together and leading a 25 man is. Blizz is saying that the 10 man and the 25 man is going to be as hard but 25 man is inheritly harder with the ligistic difficultys so are they acctually making it so the 10 man is going to be the harder bosses with more abbilitys or how are they doing this?
And yes a big part of me not liking this change is that i afraid of not being able to raid with the ppl i like best in game, other locks. Being the same class brings all kind of different things into the converation who does what(who specs demo, who have the improved HS) and gearing and strat discussion that you just dont get between different classes, what will i actually have to talk to the mages and with other things the emotes? I always thought they only understood sign language:P

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]]> By: Ravonbrand http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1832 Ravonbrand Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:00:53 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1832 Very good post and I think the feels are echoed throughout the community. It very hard to get a 25 man these days so I think they have already died out and this is Blizzard just recognizing what the community is doing. WD Very good post and I think the feels are echoed throughout the community. It very hard to get a 25 man these days so I think they have already died out and this is Blizzard just recognizing what the community is doing. WD

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]]> By: Qieth http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1831 Qieth Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:37:51 +0000 http://www.destructivereach.com/2010/04/in-which-blizzard-looked-at-sar-and-said-my-god-shes-got-it/#comment-1831 I think what people fear most is not the death of 25 man guilds as a whole, but the death of THEIR 25 man guild. To be fair, I just hope the amount of drops will go hand in hand with the number of raiders, but even if we don't see five item drops per 25 man boss, i'd probably be cool about it. The way i see it is: 10 man: Short term - 5 bosses, 10 pieces of loot, one per player 25 man: Long term - 5 bosses 3 pieces of loot, 0,6 items per player, but more emblems to get tier pieces and emblem gear faster. Heck, I suspect there might even be a talent in the new guild talent system that allow for, say, one more drop in 10 man and 3 more in 25 man, or something crazy like that. As long as there is a benefit in getting more people together, then I see no problem with all of this :) .-= Qieth´s last blog ..<a href="http://qieths-quips.com/blizzard-concept-art/" rel="nofollow">Blizzard concept art</a> =-. I think what people fear most is not the death of 25 man guilds as a whole, but the death of THEIR 25 man guild. To be fair, I just hope the amount of drops will go hand in hand with the number of raiders, but even if we don’t see five item drops per 25 man boss, i’d probably be cool about it. The way i see it is:

10 man: Short term – 5 bosses, 10 pieces of loot, one per player
25 man: Long term – 5 bosses 3 pieces of loot, 0,6 items per player, but more emblems to get tier pieces and emblem gear faster.

Heck, I suspect there might even be a talent in the new guild talent system that allow for, say, one more drop in 10 man and 3 more in 25 man, or something crazy like that.

As long as there is a benefit in getting more people together, then I see no problem with all of this :)
.-= Qieth´s last blog ..Blizzard concept art =-.

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