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		<title>By: psy</title>
		<link>http://www.destructivereach.com/2009/11/soothing-ruffled-twitter-feathers/comment-page-1/#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator>psy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be honest i enjoyed that article. i love creativity and i think seeing people do what they love without anything to prove is awesome. but i also love you and think your awesome =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be honest i enjoyed that article. i love creativity and i think seeing people do what they love without anything to prove is awesome. but i also love you and think your awesome =D</p>
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		<title>By: Saresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knew I missed one: and Fiorra, yeah, I agree with both your points.  To me, it read very much like a wow.com 15 minutes of fame... or something.  Weird business indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knew I missed one: and Fiorra, yeah, I agree with both your points.  To me, it read very much like a wow.com 15 minutes of fame&#8230; or something.  Weird business indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: Saresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@drug exactly.  No correlation between gender and skill, and it&#039;s just silly to say so.  The only people who do are either a) teasing or b) indulging in internet asshattery.

@Gnome... humans are better!

@Jaedia the WoW Ladies community is a great example of a community which EVERYONE can feel comfortable with and in.  

@jess - exactly!!!

@Syrana - I thought it was fairly tongue in cheek myself.  I really don&#039;t know why people were so bothered, maybe it&#039;s just me though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@drug exactly.  No correlation between gender and skill, and it&#8217;s just silly to say so.  The only people who do are either a) teasing or b) indulging in internet asshattery.</p>
<p>@Gnome&#8230; humans are better!</p>
<p>@Jaedia the WoW Ladies community is a great example of a community which EVERYONE can feel comfortable with and in.  </p>
<p>@jess &#8211; exactly!!!</p>
<p>@Syrana &#8211; I thought it was fairly tongue in cheek myself.  I really don&#8217;t know why people were so bothered, maybe it&#8217;s just me though</p>
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		<title>By: Syrana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syrana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, Saresa (and thanks for tweeting the link to me when Twitter was all aflutter and I couldn&#039;t find the source), I thought it was more about showcasing their artistic talent.

I guess one of the reasons I had no strong feelings regarding it (of course, I went to the link expecting THE WORST from comments I saw) was that first couple lines read (to me) tongue-in-cheek... basically making fun of the notion that girls don&#039;t exist on the internet and silly of you to believe so.
.-= Syrana&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SideSyr/~3/CKD2dbcNKDA/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Silvermoon Secrets (RP)&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, Saresa (and thanks for tweeting the link to me when Twitter was all aflutter and I couldn&#8217;t find the source), I thought it was more about showcasing their artistic talent.</p>
<p>I guess one of the reasons I had no strong feelings regarding it (of course, I went to the link expecting THE WORST from comments I saw) was that first couple lines read (to me) tongue-in-cheek&#8230; basically making fun of the notion that girls don&#8217;t exist on the internet and silly of you to believe so.<br />
.-= Syrana&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SideSyr/~3/CKD2dbcNKDA/" rel="nofollow">Silvermoon Secrets (RP)</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiorra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiorra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K so yesterday I got a little irritated about this article...but tbh, it was a little bit of a knee-jerk reaction. 

It was just...weird, ya know? I&#039;d never expect to see an article like that on the US WoW website and again, it was weird for it to be bought up. 

I just see us as gamers, whether we be female or male. And does it really matter what we are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K so yesterday I got a little irritated about this article&#8230;but tbh, it was a little bit of a knee-jerk reaction. </p>
<p>It was just&#8230;weird, ya know? I&#8217;d never expect to see an article like that on the US WoW website and again, it was weird for it to be bought up. </p>
<p>I just see us as gamers, whether we be female or male. And does it really matter what we are?</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m a girl.  I play WoW. 

Does making that statement immediately mean I am ‘putting back the cause of female gamers’?  I think not.&quot;

Nope, no more than my choosing as a woman to be a stay at home Mom and Wife sets back the feminist movement. Though I&#039;ve been accused of it a time or ten!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m a girl.  I play WoW. </p>
<p>Does making that statement immediately mean I am ‘putting back the cause of female gamers’?  I think not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope, no more than my choosing as a woman to be a stay at home Mom and Wife sets back the feminist movement. Though I&#8217;ve been accused of it a time or ten!</p>
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		<title>By: Jaedia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like communities like WoW Ladies on LiveJournal. They state that they are a community for the female players BUT by no means do they say that guys aren&#039;t allowed along.

To be honest though, I think a lot of people do take the idea of &quot;that&#039;s sexist!&quot; way too far. In my opinion, the western world is in a decent place giving equal opportunities for both men and women, sure there are some blips, but there are worse problems around. Much worse.

Silly people.
.-= Jaedia&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/lazy-sniper/iEkg/~3/d4B7VhFgRsc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A New Project&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like communities like WoW Ladies on LiveJournal. They state that they are a community for the female players BUT by no means do they say that guys aren&#8217;t allowed along.</p>
<p>To be honest though, I think a lot of people do take the idea of &#8220;that&#8217;s sexist!&#8221; way too far. In my opinion, the western world is in a decent place giving equal opportunities for both men and women, sure there are some blips, but there are worse problems around. Much worse.</p>
<p>Silly people.<br />
.-= Jaedia&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/lazy-sniper/iEkg/~3/d4B7VhFgRsc/" rel="nofollow">A New Project</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnomeaggedon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnomeaggedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny... 1st words out of a player in WSG the other day...

&lt;-- Girl in RL

Was she any good... well she knew how to tell the Huntard that he wasn&#039;t any good... that&#039;s pretty good in my opinion.

TBH I don&#039;t care one way or the other what gender someone may be... as long as they are a Gnome, they are all right by me
.-= Gnomeaggedon&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/11/17/squidlys-tips-how-to-use-lfg/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Squidly’s Tips: How to use LFG&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny&#8230; 1st words out of a player in WSG the other day&#8230;</p>
<p>&lt;&#8211; Girl in RL</p>
<p>Was she any good&#8230; well she knew how to tell the Huntard that he wasn&#039;t any good&#8230; that&#039;s pretty good in my opinion.</p>
<p>TBH I don&#039;t care one way or the other what gender someone may be&#8230; as long as they are a Gnome, they are all right by me<br />
.-= Gnomeaggedon&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://gnomeaggedon.net/2009/11/17/squidlys-tips-how-to-use-lfg/" rel="nofollow">Squidly’s Tips: How to use LFG</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: drug</title>
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		<dc:creator>drug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always very skeptical, whenever a post about sexism in WoW pops up, because honestly, I think there are much more important places where we should direct our energy to, if we want to make the world a better place. Including sexism, just not in WoW.

But anyway: one of the problems is the anonymity of the internet. This will always lead to idiots saying stupid things. In that case, I think its just best to ignore them (=kick from a group/guild and ignore) and not giving them the satisfaction of drama and posts on the internet.

We also have all the guys living in their cliché, that they should be better gamers. I mean hell, they practice since they got a gameboy a the age of 6 and now there&#039;s girls who think they are as good as they are. Most probably, those poor guys are at university, where over 50% of the students are female and perform significantly better than their fellow male students.

Then there is girls. And just like with boys we have every spectrum of skill and social competence. Most girls get treated with respect or even borderline flirtatious (&quot;no no it&#039;s YOU, you&#039;ll get the enchant for free&quot;). We have unskilled girls who sometimes have to hear sexist comments as well as over glorified female raiders (&quot;omg did you see her dps? and she&#039;s a girl!&quot;).

So my general advise to make WoW a tiny bit better place would be this: 
Girls, don&#039;t be too sensitive when it comes to borderline sexist remarks and don&#039;t blow those (hopefully rare) incidents out of proportion. An educational slap on the finger (kicking the guy from the group, maybe even guild) is the best way to go. Writing forum posts/blog bosts/setting stuff on fire is just giving those guys the attention they ultimately want.

Guys, start treating fellow WoW players as gamers first and not based on their sex. Stop whispering me inappropriate stuff when I play a female Bloodelf, it&#039;s somewhat embarrassing and I imagine it would be most unpleasant, should you ever catch a female player. Stop cross referencing the DPS meter with players gender.

Question: The guild name of our alt guild is &quot;me so hordey&quot; and my girlfriend always starts giggling when we enter a 10 man raid together. Is she sexist?
.-= drug&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shieldsup.ch/2009/11/16/it-all-comes-back-to-haste/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It all comes back to haste&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always very skeptical, whenever a post about sexism in WoW pops up, because honestly, I think there are much more important places where we should direct our energy to, if we want to make the world a better place. Including sexism, just not in WoW.</p>
<p>But anyway: one of the problems is the anonymity of the internet. This will always lead to idiots saying stupid things. In that case, I think its just best to ignore them (=kick from a group/guild and ignore) and not giving them the satisfaction of drama and posts on the internet.</p>
<p>We also have all the guys living in their cliché, that they should be better gamers. I mean hell, they practice since they got a gameboy a the age of 6 and now there&#8217;s girls who think they are as good as they are. Most probably, those poor guys are at university, where over 50% of the students are female and perform significantly better than their fellow male students.</p>
<p>Then there is girls. And just like with boys we have every spectrum of skill and social competence. Most girls get treated with respect or even borderline flirtatious (&#8220;no no it&#8217;s YOU, you&#8217;ll get the enchant for free&#8221;). We have unskilled girls who sometimes have to hear sexist comments as well as over glorified female raiders (&#8220;omg did you see her dps? and she&#8217;s a girl!&#8221;).</p>
<p>So my general advise to make WoW a tiny bit better place would be this:<br />
Girls, don&#8217;t be too sensitive when it comes to borderline sexist remarks and don&#8217;t blow those (hopefully rare) incidents out of proportion. An educational slap on the finger (kicking the guy from the group, maybe even guild) is the best way to go. Writing forum posts/blog bosts/setting stuff on fire is just giving those guys the attention they ultimately want.</p>
<p>Guys, start treating fellow WoW players as gamers first and not based on their sex. Stop whispering me inappropriate stuff when I play a female Bloodelf, it&#8217;s somewhat embarrassing and I imagine it would be most unpleasant, should you ever catch a female player. Stop cross referencing the DPS meter with players gender.</p>
<p>Question: The guild name of our alt guild is &#8220;me so hordey&#8221; and my girlfriend always starts giggling when we enter a 10 man raid together. Is she sexist?<br />
.-= drug&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.shieldsup.ch/2009/11/16/it-all-comes-back-to-haste/" rel="nofollow">It all comes back to haste</a> =-.</p>
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