Comments on: Stalking that Weird and Wonderful Creature, the Destruction Warlock

By: soopermouse

soopermouse — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:21:42 +0000

have you tried the ebonweave set? it is pretty decent and has a tron of hit. Alternatively, farm EoE normal until teh chest drops

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By: Saresa

Saresa — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:11:22 +0000

@soopermouse Oh, you didn’t come across as overcritical, and as someone who used to be a relatively hardcore raider, I totally understand your perspective.

As for the hit, well… I only have 8% hit on my gear, so I do need that extra 3% desperately, even with Draenei and Oomkin around :-)

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By: soopermouse

soopermouse — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:19:35 +0000

fair enough.
It is worth mentioning however that you do not need to be hard hitcapped for 25 mans. Remember that the chances to have a draenei and a moonkin in a 25 man are very close to 100%, which means you get 4% hit from the raid buffs. You will probably need it in 10 mans though.
I apologize if I sounded overtly critical. I am an old raider, and I tend to view the class through its raid utility.

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By: Saresa

Saresa — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:55:39 +0000

Also, as a quick update, I have recently updated my spec to 3/14/54, aiming for 0/17/54 (more than likely) as soon as I can get enough hit to start shifting points. Probably won’t happen anytime soon, with the return to work for the next 3 months killing any raiding chances for me.

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By: Saresa

Saresa — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:49:25 +0000

@soopermouse

The main thing here is that this spec needs to be altered for where you are at in your raiding and what sort of gear you have. As someone who is not raiding Ulduar, and does not have very good gear, Destructive Reach is basically useless to me – I do not have good enough gear to pull aggro.

As I stated in an above comment, none of the other Warlocks I run with have ISB, and the Scorch debuff is equal to the ISB debuff, and is also a heck of a lot easier for a Warlock to keep up than a Mage.

At the end of the day, I am not aiming for top DPS in this spec. I am aiming for decent damage, sure, but also some utility, and I don’t need to have things in my talent build which are specifically for Ulduar, since I don’t and wont raid in Ulduar. I also did not say at any point that this is the spec I would recommend for other people to use – I simply said this is the spec that I use, and these are the reasons why.

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By: soopermouse

soopermouse — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:03:14 +0000

I run as hybrid, and have done it before it was fashionable. Glyph of Life tap at this point is moronic, since everybody is in a hurry to replace their T7s. I replaced all of mine but the shoulders with Ulduar 10 gear- and hopefully some ulduar 25 stuff will come my way soon.
T7 is not spectacular to begin with, and it would appear that T8 ain’t much better. Thus, the glyph of Life tap seems somewhat pointless to me.

Also, Destructive Reach is a must for a destrolock nowadays- the fihts in Ulduar are very very intense and mobile and you just need each and every help to not overaggro. At least one point in it a must.

Also- Demonic Embrace needs 3 points. Ulduar is all about survival, and funny enough less about DPS.
ISB= waste of points since the afflocks or meta locks will cover that, plus it cannot compete with Scorch.
CoA is useful in short fights when you don’t want to use CoD, after all it is extra damage.

HYbrid has some advantages that cannot be ignored- extra about 300 SP and 10% crit should not be passed by anyone

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By: Saresa

Saresa — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:59:32 +0000

Oh… and I don’t have 4set T7, which also makes the Life Tap Glyph less appealing. Forgot to mention that!!! <3

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By: Saresa

Saresa — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 01:33:33 +0000

Blanket statement first: I actually haven’t replaced my glyphs. That requires a wee bit more gold, not to mention dedication to min maxing that I currently just don’t have. So, if I don’t replace my glyphs any time soon, don’t read that as an indication of me ignoring advice! I just only use glyphs my Scribe can personally make.

@Rockeroad I really don’t like the idea of the glyph of Life Tap myself… just something that rubs me the wrong way about gaining more DPS through Life Tapping… I’m funny like that. The Glyph of Conflag is more appealing to me that the LT glyph

As for the aff locks, well, we just don’t have one. Our other locks are all sorts of weird specs, and I do know of at least a couple who don’t have ISB. I am generally pretty wary of speccing based on what other people may or may not have anyway, since there is nothing to say that person might want a couple weeks off or something! That and there is the fact that nothing further down the tree is especially appealing at this point, and I would need to invest points in the Destro tree to progress regardless.

@Fear.Win I’ll have to get the Conflag Glyph (if my Scribe has it… I honestly can’t remember)since it does look pretty good. I have this annoying ‘blindness’ to Conflag (I think I admitted this in the post) from lecturing people throughout BC ‘No Conflag! No Conflag!’

Thanks, as always, for the feedback guys!

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By: Fear.Win

Fear.Win — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:41:15 +0000

Conflag was changed to do X amount of damage and now does 70% of Immolates damage. The glyph makes it not consume Immolate when you use it so you can use it like a normal spell now. It deals a ton of damage now, especially with the Immolate glyph and all of the talents boosting fire/immolate damage. It’s definitely worth replacing the CoA glyph with Conflag, IMO. I use Imp, Immolate and Conflag as my glyphs but whichever works best for you of course =)

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By: Rockeroad

Rockeroad — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:49:38 +0000

I think my post sounded mean…i didnt mean for it to be =(. I am a nice person =D

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